“ I ’m not 20 , I ’m not 30 , but I was n’t yet what they comprehend as a mother … It was a time that felt , not dead , but matt . ”

Demi Moorerecalled how conversations about her body changed in Hollywood after turning 40.

In case you’ve not heard, Demi is gearing up for an acting comeback inThe Substance, a forthcoming bodyhorror filmall about beauty standards, aging, and toxic masculinity.

The Substance— which hits theaters Sept. 20 — has received aton of hypesince it premiered atCannes Film Festivalin May. And now, in conversation withMichelle YeohforInterview magazine, Demi got real about her experience with aging in the limelight and how the film is a “reflection of our human condition.”

Talking more specifically about how the script resonated with her, Demi recalled facing more scrutiny over her appearance when she entered her 40s in the early 2000s.

“What’s interesting is I felt [the criticism] more when I hit my forties,” she said before calling back to a specific scene she did inCharlie’s Angels: Full Throttle, which came out in 2003, around the time she begandating Ashton Kutcher.

In response, Michelle — who is only a few months older than Demi — agreed that “Hollywood is cruel to women of that age.”

While discussingThe Substanceat a Cannes press conference in May, Demi opened up about having to come to terms with the “vulnerability and rawness” of her own body while shooting the film’sexplicit nude scenes— including a “naked, no-holds-barred bloody fight” between her and Margaret’s characters.

Here’s the trailer forThe Substance. And this is where you can read Demi’s full conversation with Michelle forInterview magazine.

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Demi Moore smiles and clasps her hands at an event, wearing an outfit with polka dots and diamond jewelry

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Demi with long dark hair is holding an orange phone to her ear, looking down pensively in a dimly lit room in a scene from The Substance

Demi Moore at a public event wearing a polka dot-patterned outfit, with long straight hair, and diamond drop earrings

Demi Moore smiles while wearing a sleeveless brown vest and black bead necklace

Demi Moore walking on a beach holding a surfboard, wearing a bikini

Michelle Yeoh and Demi Moore pose together at a formal event, sitting at a table set with empty glasses

Demi Moore on the red carpet wearing a strapless, sequined dress with a sparkling statement necklace

Demi Moore smiles, wearing a polka dot top on the left. On the right, she wears a strapless gown with Margaret Qualley, who wears a patterned dress

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