I do n’t even realize why a full grown valet de chambre would WANT to go steady a teenager .

It’s an unfortunately common phenomenon of our society that men will often date younger women — especially when it comes to male celebs. A lot of famous male celebs have even “dated” teenagers. I say “dated” because some of these people were literally minors — and frankly, in my opinion, if you’re “dating” a teenager in your 30s or even 20s*, you’re a predator.

A while back,u/Pranav_p_nposed aquestionabout beloved celebs that are actually creepy, and I noticed there were a ton of celebs nominated for allegedly problematic relationships with minors and teenagers. Read on to find out which of your faves are just major creeps.

2.Bret MichaelsdatedTracy Lewis — who he later wrote “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” about — when she was16and he was in his mid-20s.

3.Woody Allen’s sexual abuse allegationsarewell-documented, but his relationships with teenagers are lesser-known. Besides having met his wife when she was underage (she was his wife’s adopted child — though they did not start dating until she was of age), he also dated 17-year-old Stacey Nelkin when she was still in high school, and Christina Engelhardtclaimedthey’d dated when she was 16 and he was in his 40s.

4.Kobebegan datinghis future wife Vanessa when she was 17 and still in high school — the two became engaged when she was still a senior. The two were together until his death in 2020.

5.Lily-Rose Deppwasonly 16when she reportedly began dating 24-year-old model Ash Stymest (who hadpreviouslybeen married and had a child). In fact, Stymest even joined her family on vacation a few months after they reportedly began dating. They’re rumored to have broken up after two and a half years, at which point they’d still never confirmed their relationship.

6.Here’s one case where the man wasn’t necessarily famous, but it was still messed up —Lordewassimilarly 16whenshe began dating photographer James Lowe, who was seven years older than her. The tworeportedly splitnear the end of 2015 after three years together.

7.Soccer star Samir Nasrireportedly datedSofia Richiewhen she was 17 and he was 28/29. The two wereseen exitinghis birthday party hand-in-hand.

8.There wereheavy rumorsthatKylie JennerandTygawere dating when she was 17 and he was 25. Just days after Tyga denied they were dating,Kanye West, then Jenner’s brother-in-law,said, “I think he got in early, I think he was smart. They’re closer in age than a lot of relationships I know." Tyga thenseemed to confirmtheir relationship on Instagram a month later.

Kylie’s sister Khloé Kardashian also seemed to confirm they were dating whenComplexasked her about the two: “I think at 16, I was probably fucking someone that was in their 20s, for sure. I wouldn’t say I was even dating, probably just sleeping with them. But again, Kylie is not a normal 17-year-old.” Tyga also got atattooof Kylie’s name.

9.As the lead singer of Aerosmith, Steven Tyler has been beloved for decades. But for some reason, people seem to ignore the fact that he once “dated” a 16-year-old. He literallyadmittedto it in his memoir, writing, “She was 16, she knew how to nasty, and there wasn’t a hair on it."

It’s likelythatTyler is referring to Julia Holcomb, who actually sued him last year for sexual assault, sexual battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress back in the ’70s. Like Tyler stated in his memoir, she claims that Tyler persuaded her mother to sign over guardianship to him, which is corroborated in Tyler’s own memoir, in which he writes “her parents fell in love with me, signed a paper over for me to have custody, so I wouldn’t get arrested if I took her out of state. I took her on tour with me.” Tyler was 26 at the time.

10.Chad Michael MurrayproposedtoOne Tree Hillextra Kenzie Dalton in 2006, when she was a senior in high school and he was 24. She was reported to be 18 at the time. The two hadmetwhen Kenzie was 17 (both episodesKenzie appeared as an extra in were filmed/aired when she was 17), though there are no reports they dated before she was 18.

11.Similarly, Milo Ventimiglia and Hayden Panettiere did not announce that they were dating until Panettiere was"barely 18"and he was 29 — but they’d been appearing on the showHeroestogether for about a year, so it’s unclear when the relationship turned from coworkers to dating, though they had denied dating in the past.

12.Elvis Presleymethis wife Priscilla in Germany when she was 14 and he was 24. They began a relationship that involved lying in bed with their arms around each other nightly — although Priscilla maintains they did not sleep together until they were married. They stayed in touch after he went back to the US, and Priscilla says he eventually convinced her parents to let her move to the US and live with his family (but not him) when she was 17. However, she soon moved in with Elvis instead. She was still in high school.

13.Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers also admitted to a relationship with a minor. He once told the story of a Catholic school girl who had come to his concert that he slept with, and her eventually revealing she was 14, a runaway, and her father was the chief of police — Kiedissaid,“I did want to get her the hell back home right away. So, we had sex one more time.” He was in his mid-20s.

14.He also “dated” Ione Skye when she was 16* and he was in his mid-20s. She even moved into his house.

15.It’s also a bit unclear when Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder began dating — theymetat a premiere in June 1989, when Ryder was 17 and Depp was 26. Deppdescribed itas “love at first sight,” andsaidthey started dating a few months later — Ryder turned 18 in October 1989 (four months later), and according toUS Weekly,they began dating in February 1990.

16.Melanie Griffithmoved inwith her boyfriend Don Johnson when she was just 15 after meeting him at 14 — he was eight years older than her. They later got engaged when she was 18, then split before coming back together to remarry and have Dakota Johnson.

17.Joel Madden dated teen Disney Channel star Hilary Duff for three years startingwhen shewas only 16 — he was in his mid-20s.

18.Jimmy Page, according to Rolling Stone,began an affairwith Lori Maddox (sometimes spelled Mattix) when she was 14 years old and he was in his late 20s. It does not appear Page has ever addressed or responded to these claims.

Loriclaimedhe “basically kidnapped” her after telling her he was going to be with her, then often left her at the hotel with security at the door. Lori — who also claimed she slept with David Bowie when she was underage —saidin the context of #metoo, “I never thought there was anything wrong with it, but maybe there was. I used to get letters telling me he was a pedophile, but I’d never think of him like that.” But she also said, “I don’t think underage girls should sleep with guys. I wouldn’t want this for anybody’s daughter.”

19.One more rockstar who “dated” an underage girl? Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones. Hemet13-year-old Mandy Smith in 1984 (when he was 47), and married her after she turned 18 (allegedly havinggroomed her for those five years, while he was in his 40s). Smith said they had sex when she was 14. Wymandid notdirectly contradict these claims, but said, “It wasn’t how it was reported to be. A lot of people understood, but a lot didn’t, especially the media.”

20.Jerry Seinfeld was in the height of his fame, in his late 30s, when he similarly"dated"a teenager (Shoshanna Lonstein), though he claims she was 18 when they began the romantic aspect of their relationship. After she turned 18, he told Howard Stern, “I didn’t realize she was so young. This is the only girl I ever went out with who was that young. I wasn’t dating her. We just went to a restaurant, and that was it.” He confirmed their relationship a few years later.

21.Demi Lovatoinitially similarly claimedthat she was 18 when her romantic relationship with 29-year-old Wilmer Valderrama began, though they had met when she was 17, and she called it “love at first sight.” However, her song “29” is all about “dating” a 29-year-old at 17 and feeling taken advantage of, and manybelieveit’s about Valderrama.

22.In fact, this appears to be a pattern for Valderrama. He also dated Mandy Moore when she was “16 and 17,“according toMoore herself. Valderrama would’ve been in his early 20s.

23.Valderrama also dated Lindsay Lohan when she was 18 — though they werefirst linkedwhen she was 17. On her 18th birthday, they were seen kissing. He was 24.

24.We obviously all know R. Kelly is a creep, but we couldn’t go this whole post without mentioning him. Kelly famously married Aaliyah in 1994,whenshe was 15 and he was 27 — a marriage that was annulled because Aaliyah was too young. Witnesses have claimed that R. Kellybegana sexual relationship with Aaliyah when she was 13 or 14.

25.At the time of his death at age 40, Paul Walker was dating 23-year-old Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell. The two hadreportedlymet and started dating when Pilchard-Gosnell was only 16, and Walker was in his early 30s.

26.Lita Grey was only 8 when she met Charlie Chaplin, and the two later reconnected during the casting process for his filmThe Gold Rush,when Lita was 15 and Chaplin was in his mid-30s. Theybegan"dating,” and Grey got pregnant…so Chaplin secretly married her to avoid criminal charges, according to Vice.

28.Beloved French singer Claude Francoisreportedlyhad an affair with 17-year-old France Gall in 1964, when he would’ve been 25.

29.And finally, we’ll end on one where they may not have dated until they were both of age, but that’s still pretty sus: René Angélil and Céline Dion. While Angélil and Dion did notofficiallystart dating until she was 19, Dion said their romantic relationship had begun around a year earlier. And Dion had known Angélil since she was 12 years old, when the then-38-year-old became her manager, callinghim"part of the family” and saying she’d pined for him in secret. They later married.

R. Kelly being escorted by a prison guard

Bret Michaels

Kobe and Vanessa Bryant

Ash Stymest and Lily-Rose Depp

Lorde and James Lowe

Sofia and Samir in the back of a car

Kylie Jenner and Tyga

Closeup of Tyga and Kylie Jenner

Closeup of Steven Tyler

Closeup of Steven Tyler

Kenzie Dalton and Chad Michael Murray

Milo Ventimiglia and Hayden Panettiere

Priscilla and Elvis Presley

Closeup of Anthony Kiedis

Anthony Kiedis and Ione Skye

Winona Ryder and Johnny Depp

Melanie Griffith and Don Johnson

Joel Madden and Hilary Duff

Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox

Closeup of Lori Maddox

Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith

Jerry Seinfeld with a young woman

Wilmer Valderrama and Demi Lovato

Wilmer Valderrama and Mandy Moore

Wilmer Valderrama and Lindsay Lohan

Closeup of Aaliyah

Closeup of Paul Walker

Charlie Chaplin and Lita Grey

Pele Massa and Ted Nugent

Claude Francois and France Gall onstage

Celine and René Angélil